akred
02-16 12:53 PM
I didn't generalize. I said preponderence meaning "a lot of" cases with L1/B1/H1 and I am also not denying the fact the India is doing a great job in producing IT skills in great numbers. I am saying how they end up in America in greater numbers than any other country. China, Pakistan, Israel also produces lots of IT gradutes but they don't have the bodyshop connection to land here with an NIIT certificate.
Delusional? Quite a few European countries spring to mind before this one.
Delusional? Quite a few European countries spring to mind before this one.
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snathan
01-13 08:13 PM
My take is BODY SHOPPING is killed.
H1Bs can work at direct employer or as an employee of direct vendor at off site.
No more small consulting firms sending resumes to direct vendors. May be in long term its good for H1Bs.
Mostly Desi consulting firms will get hit. Outsourcing companies like TCS,Infosys are direct vendors to big clients. They will OK ..
My take is Infy, TCS are the biggest theives. if you work with the client, you never know when the will show the door and promptly cancel the H1B. Ideally USCIS should target the big fish and their flithy L1
H1Bs can work at direct employer or as an employee of direct vendor at off site.
No more small consulting firms sending resumes to direct vendors. May be in long term its good for H1Bs.
Mostly Desi consulting firms will get hit. Outsourcing companies like TCS,Infosys are direct vendors to big clients. They will OK ..
My take is Infy, TCS are the biggest theives. if you work with the client, you never know when the will show the door and promptly cancel the H1B. Ideally USCIS should target the big fish and their flithy L1
dealsnet
09-03 05:45 PM
I am from Kerala. not from AP.(studied in Bangalore and have friends from almost every state from India) I AM NOT A REDDY OR RAO.
Some of my friends are from Bihar (CHILDREN OF MP'S, MLA) go home for elections and lead booth capturing. They shared their experience with me.
CASTE POLITICS IS A THE RESON FOR ALL NEGATIVE COMMENTS.
IN KERALA, CASTE POLITICS IS EXISTS (just pick a candidate for a constituency), BUT NOT IN THE RANGE OF OTHER INDIAN STATES. (ESPECIALLY NORTH INDIA)
Let the people from AP, comment about him. If they give him second time, it is clear that majority like him. No doubt about it. If he is not good, why you people campaign against him by blogs for go to India and vote against him ???
I DIDN'T SUPPORT ANY POLITICIANS. But have a sympathy for a dead person and other 5 people in the accident.
This can happen to any one of us at any time. Do not rejoice in Tragedies.
You claim that you dont know him and your only knowledge of him is through reading the news and yet you argue against those ruled by him. Did it ever occur to you that these people might know more things (that are not reported) than you do ?
Welcome dealsnet reddy.
Some of my friends are from Bihar (CHILDREN OF MP'S, MLA) go home for elections and lead booth capturing. They shared their experience with me.
CASTE POLITICS IS A THE RESON FOR ALL NEGATIVE COMMENTS.
IN KERALA, CASTE POLITICS IS EXISTS (just pick a candidate for a constituency), BUT NOT IN THE RANGE OF OTHER INDIAN STATES. (ESPECIALLY NORTH INDIA)
Let the people from AP, comment about him. If they give him second time, it is clear that majority like him. No doubt about it. If he is not good, why you people campaign against him by blogs for go to India and vote against him ???
I DIDN'T SUPPORT ANY POLITICIANS. But have a sympathy for a dead person and other 5 people in the accident.
This can happen to any one of us at any time. Do not rejoice in Tragedies.
You claim that you dont know him and your only knowledge of him is through reading the news and yet you argue against those ruled by him. Did it ever occur to you that these people might know more things (that are not reported) than you do ?
Welcome dealsnet reddy.
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hpandey
06-14 12:40 PM
To be honest, I do agree that the US needs qualified people with skillsets. The real question is "Are the people from the desi consulting companies the real qualified lot ? " Just to get my background details out of the way. I am a new member, from India ofcourse, and I have recently applied for my citizenship. Now with this huge deluge of immigrants, especially from the desi consulting companies, I feel that my quality of life is getting adversely impacted. Do not rush to conclusions that I am anti Indian or anti immigrant. 12 years back when I first got my H1 visa, the requirements to qualify were strict. Staffing companies to a decent extent followed rules and tried to get the best and the brightest. Once the dot com boom started, people from all walks of life entered IT. This was true of not just the Indians but also of people in the US. Soon after the bust, the value proposition from these staffing companies was simply low cost. This is not to blame the staffing companies. They behaved in an economically rational way.
Consider this scenario. If you run a consulting company, wouldn't you try to maximize your profits by staffing people in projects at the least cost ? This is econmically rational. You wouldn't worry much about the quality of the deliverables and all you would care is to dump as many bodies as possible at the client site or offshore and get the maximum bang for the buck.
In this scenario, how is it feasible to expect immigrational justice when the bodies themselves dont provide exceptional talent and skills but simply offer low cost ? Now you would be tempted to bring in the analogous case of illegal low skilled immigrants. Remember they are just that - low skilled workers. They dont "steal" the jobs of high skilled workers. But this dumping of IT workforce has completely brought down the standard of living of the IT workers here. To be honest, those who get green cards today would feel the same way five years from now when the next wave of so called "skilled IT immigrants" offer even lower wages and destroy the quality of life.
In summary, this retrogression is good in a way. The truly best and the brightest would still be employed until their turn for adjournment comes in. Only the weak are currently scared of the delays. I went through the same torrid GC phase after the tech meltdown in 2001. I was not worried of my job then but many people whom I knew got clobbered and were forced to leave. This is the darwinian flush and it will take its toll. Trust me this the bitter truth. If you people still consider that all the people on H1/L1 are part of the best and the brightest, they are WRONG. Only a small % (probably 20%) are the true best and the brightest and a good 50% will be flushed out. Sorry to say this and hey give me the red dots.
You have got the same Indian mentality that most of the people here that once we got a GC and citizenship let us close the doors behind us. Just because you got lucky and got your GC in time and are now applying for Citizenship you are saying that all others who come after you are not as qualified as you or "best and the brightest" .
For your knowledge I see a lot of intelligent people everyday from all walks of life - Indians, Americans, Chinese, Russians etc etc. A person does not becomhe intelligent by the number of degrees he has but by the logic sense that he has and how he applies to his daily life.
Who are you to judge the people coming after you that they are not skilled or the best and brightest.
I don't wish bad for anyone but if you are saying retrogression is good then beware you are wishing for the curse of a lot of people who have been unfairly standing in the queue for 8 - 10 years while a lot of people from 2006 got their GC.
Consider this scenario. If you run a consulting company, wouldn't you try to maximize your profits by staffing people in projects at the least cost ? This is econmically rational. You wouldn't worry much about the quality of the deliverables and all you would care is to dump as many bodies as possible at the client site or offshore and get the maximum bang for the buck.
In this scenario, how is it feasible to expect immigrational justice when the bodies themselves dont provide exceptional talent and skills but simply offer low cost ? Now you would be tempted to bring in the analogous case of illegal low skilled immigrants. Remember they are just that - low skilled workers. They dont "steal" the jobs of high skilled workers. But this dumping of IT workforce has completely brought down the standard of living of the IT workers here. To be honest, those who get green cards today would feel the same way five years from now when the next wave of so called "skilled IT immigrants" offer even lower wages and destroy the quality of life.
In summary, this retrogression is good in a way. The truly best and the brightest would still be employed until their turn for adjournment comes in. Only the weak are currently scared of the delays. I went through the same torrid GC phase after the tech meltdown in 2001. I was not worried of my job then but many people whom I knew got clobbered and were forced to leave. This is the darwinian flush and it will take its toll. Trust me this the bitter truth. If you people still consider that all the people on H1/L1 are part of the best and the brightest, they are WRONG. Only a small % (probably 20%) are the true best and the brightest and a good 50% will be flushed out. Sorry to say this and hey give me the red dots.
You have got the same Indian mentality that most of the people here that once we got a GC and citizenship let us close the doors behind us. Just because you got lucky and got your GC in time and are now applying for Citizenship you are saying that all others who come after you are not as qualified as you or "best and the brightest" .
For your knowledge I see a lot of intelligent people everyday from all walks of life - Indians, Americans, Chinese, Russians etc etc. A person does not becomhe intelligent by the number of degrees he has but by the logic sense that he has and how he applies to his daily life.
Who are you to judge the people coming after you that they are not skilled or the best and brightest.
I don't wish bad for anyone but if you are saying retrogression is good then beware you are wishing for the curse of a lot of people who have been unfairly standing in the queue for 8 - 10 years while a lot of people from 2006 got their GC.
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dallasdude
06-12 04:11 PM
Guys, I've heard (and only heard - don't red me now) that Cognizant has its H-1Bs being rejected and I've heard as far as this that some of the people in Cognizant who got green card through EB-1 category have been deported due to investigation after complaints regarding misuse of EB-1 category by these companies.
has anyone else heard the same?
That's extremely wonderful news. thanks for sharing.
has anyone else heard the same?
That's extremely wonderful news. thanks for sharing.
kris101
07-03 04:25 PM
Hi Forum,
I have come to USA last year and was getting paid consistently till May31. Now, on July 2nd new employer (not a desi, but a big company) applied for transfer on premium processing. I'm continuing with my old employer, and they are marketing me, and have all such emails. Just wanted to know whether the paystub will be an issue for transfer? And how soon can I join them, and what is the risk if I join them now, before I wait for response from INS?
Any response in this regard will be highly appreciated.
I have come to USA last year and was getting paid consistently till May31. Now, on July 2nd new employer (not a desi, but a big company) applied for transfer on premium processing. I'm continuing with my old employer, and they are marketing me, and have all such emails. Just wanted to know whether the paystub will be an issue for transfer? And how soon can I join them, and what is the risk if I join them now, before I wait for response from INS?
Any response in this regard will be highly appreciated.
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panky72
09-23 12:00 PM
Thanks for sending.
send me a PM with addresses that bounced. I will update the list.
Great idea nixtor,
I sent all the emails and also to senators from my state. Many of them bounced back. I have sent a PM to you with details.
send me a PM with addresses that bounced. I will update the list.
Great idea nixtor,
I sent all the emails and also to senators from my state. Many of them bounced back. I have sent a PM to you with details.
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gcdreamer05
03-27 12:00 PM
How about rajinikanth, vijaykanth, kamalhasan..........
Amitab bachan, hrithick, shah rukh..............
If Imran khan has come in to politics why not Azharuddin ?
We can keep guessing but you know who is the right guy ,
Abdul kalaam (can a president become a prime minister too again or something will limit him not to).
Or deport bobby jindal there and make him india PM so that he can release statements about US from there :D:D:D
Amitab bachan, hrithick, shah rukh..............
If Imran khan has come in to politics why not Azharuddin ?
We can keep guessing but you know who is the right guy ,
Abdul kalaam (can a president become a prime minister too again or something will limit him not to).
Or deport bobby jindal there and make him india PM so that he can release statements about US from there :D:D:D
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skrish
09-24 09:51 PM
Hi All,
Just wanted to let all know, that I had made this suggestion sometime back on the IV NY yahoogroups. looks like it has gained traction since then. I ad also sent mails to Zoe Loefgren, the President and VP back then. :)
I have sent my mails and told all my friends to send too. lets Go For it ....
Together, We shall Overcome
Just wanted to let all know, that I had made this suggestion sometime back on the IV NY yahoogroups. looks like it has gained traction since then. I ad also sent mails to Zoe Loefgren, the President and VP back then. :)
I have sent my mails and told all my friends to send too. lets Go For it ....
Together, We shall Overcome
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krishnam70
07-11 07:36 PM
TN is not a modified H1B. With TN you do not have a dual intent: you cannot apply for a green card straight through TN status -- you would have to adjust your status to H1, L1, or any other immigrant status and only then apply for a green card.
TN is given for two years. Your wife can just as easily file for a TN in her occupation. Yes, you need an employer in the USA to get TN status, but I don't see a big problem with it. I work for a relatively small company (about 90 employees), and we hire people from all over the world. Our recruitment personnel conducts online and phone interviews, and a job offer can be made before the candidate ever visits our state.
With TN you get stamped at the border -- and welcome back to the USA! :)
Another interesting idea about Canada-USA work/immigration popped up today in conversation with my immigration lawyer. If you have a managerial position in a company that has offices in USA and Canada, you can jump on L1 visa. This will let you file in EB-1 category if you want to go for a green card. There are some additional requirements: you need to work as a manager in the company's branch in Canada for at least a year; when you apply for a green card, the company will need to prove that the Canadian office will keep operating after you get your green card and leave Canada. Nevertheless, it's a possibility that is definitely better than EB-3 or EB-2.
Using NEXUS.. doing my research..
TN is given for two years. Your wife can just as easily file for a TN in her occupation. Yes, you need an employer in the USA to get TN status, but I don't see a big problem with it. I work for a relatively small company (about 90 employees), and we hire people from all over the world. Our recruitment personnel conducts online and phone interviews, and a job offer can be made before the candidate ever visits our state.
With TN you get stamped at the border -- and welcome back to the USA! :)
Another interesting idea about Canada-USA work/immigration popped up today in conversation with my immigration lawyer. If you have a managerial position in a company that has offices in USA and Canada, you can jump on L1 visa. This will let you file in EB-1 category if you want to go for a green card. There are some additional requirements: you need to work as a manager in the company's branch in Canada for at least a year; when you apply for a green card, the company will need to prove that the Canadian office will keep operating after you get your green card and leave Canada. Nevertheless, it's a possibility that is definitely better than EB-3 or EB-2.
Using NEXUS.. doing my research..
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nixstor
09-23 11:42 AM
I just emailed all of them with my name, address and phone number. Atleast 13 of them bounced. Can some one correct the email addresses in that sheet.
Thanks for sending.
send me a PM with addresses that bounced. I will update the list.
Thanks for sending.
send me a PM with addresses that bounced. I will update the list.
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kittu1991
05-01 02:44 PM
It is a shame India does not act to protect the interests of its citizens even after this news came up.
Why do you think it is Indian citizens? Just because some politicians are saying so for their own gains all Tamilians in Srilanka are not Indian citizen.
Heck, even USA is trying harder than India by using its muscle to block billions of dollars of IMF funds to SL for not caring about ceasefire.
Are you suggesting India should start playing the role of world police as USA.
LTTE is the one who took the life of our beloved leader Rajiv Gandhi who would have taken India to much high in the world. And why should India protect them.
Why do you think it is Indian citizens? Just because some politicians are saying so for their own gains all Tamilians in Srilanka are not Indian citizen.
Heck, even USA is trying harder than India by using its muscle to block billions of dollars of IMF funds to SL for not caring about ceasefire.
Are you suggesting India should start playing the role of world police as USA.
LTTE is the one who took the life of our beloved leader Rajiv Gandhi who would have taken India to much high in the world. And why should India protect them.
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hopefulgc
02-13 02:39 PM
I am ready to commit $25 for the initial consultation with Rajiv or some other lawyer. I have no qualms about raising my commitment if there is need.
Even I am ready to put in $ 25 for the first consultation with Rajiv khanna or any other Lawyer IV core wants to go with. And if IV plans to go ahead with class action lawsuit as per requirement will raise my monetary commitment. please PM me if IV core plans to go ahead.
Even I am ready to put in $ 25 for the first consultation with Rajiv khanna or any other Lawyer IV core wants to go with. And if IV plans to go ahead with class action lawsuit as per requirement will raise my monetary commitment. please PM me if IV core plans to go ahead.
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old_hat
05-03 01:59 AM
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Its not he....Its you...yes, you are the one comng in three different IDs and supporting yourself.:eek:
get over delusional thoughts. At my age I am not looking for vindication from any quarters. my opinions are my own and mostly well supported with facts. And yes I am flexible to changing my views based on facts and arguments based on facts.
Its not he....Its you...yes, you are the one comng in three different IDs and supporting yourself.:eek:
get over delusional thoughts. At my age I am not looking for vindication from any quarters. my opinions are my own and mostly well supported with facts. And yes I am flexible to changing my views based on facts and arguments based on facts.
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neoklaus
02-13 03:05 PM
Are you suggesting that IV's efforts would increase the wait times for ROW?
What incentive does ROW have to work with IV then?
Generally speakin' we are all "Rest of the World".
Let's not just be theoretic. Our positive thinking and movement together will help resolve the issues.
Even that I'm here since 2000 & my husband 1999(H1B-ROW) we will wait and fight together with India, China...
Go, India! Go, China!
What incentive does ROW have to work with IV then?
Generally speakin' we are all "Rest of the World".
Let's not just be theoretic. Our positive thinking and movement together will help resolve the issues.
Even that I'm here since 2000 & my husband 1999(H1B-ROW) we will wait and fight together with India, China...
Go, India! Go, China!
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kumarc123
07-25 12:25 PM
I agree with vdlrao completely. The horizontal spill over rule essentially gives all EB1/EB2 visa to EB2's. This will make the EB2 cutoff dates leap and bounce forward. For EB3, however, there won't be any spill over data until EB2 become all current.
In Oppennheimer's reply to Ron Gotcher's question, he mentioned that the horizontal rule was set after he 'had consulation with the congress', so it's very unlikely to have any change to this rule till some legislation changes take place.
I agree with you 100%, this change was made by Congress in attempt to reduce the backlog.
Think about it in terms of Congress, it was under a lot of pressure from high skilled workers and from companies like Google and Bill gates who argued for more number of visas. No offense to any EB3 category, but we all know, EB2 are the ones which have earned a higher skilled education from this country.
(Now please don't start any debates on EB2 or EB3, I didn't make any distinctions and it has no relevance.)
For Congress to somehow act, they made the change in movement of visa numbers, and geared more towards EB1/EB2, to reduce the backlog among EB2 category. This will eventually lead to roll over of visa numbers from EB2 to EB3.
Advantage? High skilled workers who have attained a Masters degree from
U.S., now will see a reduce in backlog.
This recent change in the flow of visa numbers, acknowledges all these problems. We all know, who ever takes over the next presidential elections, will not issue something right away, it will take a few months.
This change buys time and greatly reduces the backlog among EB2, eventually for Eb3 as well. The new process makes much more sense and I don't think this change will revert to its original movement (back to vertical flow)
In Oppennheimer's reply to Ron Gotcher's question, he mentioned that the horizontal rule was set after he 'had consulation with the congress', so it's very unlikely to have any change to this rule till some legislation changes take place.
I agree with you 100%, this change was made by Congress in attempt to reduce the backlog.
Think about it in terms of Congress, it was under a lot of pressure from high skilled workers and from companies like Google and Bill gates who argued for more number of visas. No offense to any EB3 category, but we all know, EB2 are the ones which have earned a higher skilled education from this country.
(Now please don't start any debates on EB2 or EB3, I didn't make any distinctions and it has no relevance.)
For Congress to somehow act, they made the change in movement of visa numbers, and geared more towards EB1/EB2, to reduce the backlog among EB2 category. This will eventually lead to roll over of visa numbers from EB2 to EB3.
Advantage? High skilled workers who have attained a Masters degree from
U.S., now will see a reduce in backlog.
This recent change in the flow of visa numbers, acknowledges all these problems. We all know, who ever takes over the next presidential elections, will not issue something right away, it will take a few months.
This change buys time and greatly reduces the backlog among EB2, eventually for Eb3 as well. The new process makes much more sense and I don't think this change will revert to its original movement (back to vertical flow)
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vdesi
01-05 02:05 PM
According to this all H1B's who want to buy a house ? can invest $40,000 should be given a GC out of turn.... Wow!
What about people waiting in line patiently for five plus years, (labor, I140 and I485)?
The line for those waiting patiently will not decrease, only people on bench for months willing to get GC at any cost will benefit.
What about people waiting in line patiently for five plus years, (labor, I140 and I485)?
The line for those waiting patiently will not decrease, only people on bench for months willing to get GC at any cost will benefit.
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jayleno
07-21 01:49 PM
This discussion is a lot fun guys.
I hate these Amway and Quickstar guys with a passion. They are total losers. Though I dont have much to add to what others said before on this thread, I just want some Amway/Quickstar person to see this thread and realize what people of think of them. Doesnt matter I guess. Those guys are shameless and thickskinned.
Chanduv23, couldn't have said it better. These days, like you said, I too feel very conscious of talking to Desi people who I meet at the public places.
Some tips I collected after meeting at least 10 Quickstar jokers in the last few years. At some point I was suspecting if I was a Qucikstar magnet. :)
Common pick up lines for them are:
1) I have seen you some where
2) I'm new to the area and I'm looking for a new roommate/place to live.
3) Nice car/phone. How do you like it? I'm/my-wife-is thinking of buying exact same thing.
4) If seen at a Desi store, what movie do you suggest?
After some converstaion like what do you do etc, bang comes the question "How do you like to make some extra money after work?". Thats when you have to pick up your cell phone and answer some imaginary call and ignore the person.
I hate these Amway and Quickstar guys with a passion. They are total losers. Though I dont have much to add to what others said before on this thread, I just want some Amway/Quickstar person to see this thread and realize what people of think of them. Doesnt matter I guess. Those guys are shameless and thickskinned.
Chanduv23, couldn't have said it better. These days, like you said, I too feel very conscious of talking to Desi people who I meet at the public places.
Some tips I collected after meeting at least 10 Quickstar jokers in the last few years. At some point I was suspecting if I was a Qucikstar magnet. :)
Common pick up lines for them are:
1) I have seen you some where
2) I'm new to the area and I'm looking for a new roommate/place to live.
3) Nice car/phone. How do you like it? I'm/my-wife-is thinking of buying exact same thing.
4) If seen at a Desi store, what movie do you suggest?
After some converstaion like what do you do etc, bang comes the question "How do you like to make some extra money after work?". Thats when you have to pick up your cell phone and answer some imaginary call and ignore the person.
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harikris
05-31 01:40 AM
[Hiralal] ... and hence a better bet would be recapture ..
That's a much better suggestion than playing carrot-and-stick on real-estate bargains Mr. Hiralal.
Now, what would really be effective is for our own people that are already naturalized and integrated and assimilated and digested in the US system to stand up for our cause.
Please, do this for us seniors. As citizens and permanent residents, your voice will be effectively heard. Case in point - legislation on re-uniting families. To begin with, family based has nearly 60% more visas than employment based and nearly 80% of the visas available are exempt from per-country limits. And yet, the politicians want to reform family based immigration process because the people at the receiving end are their citizens. There is nothing wrong with it because the wait-time for extended family members are really long too which is a shame. But you see, there are bills that are actively discussed and passed in that category i.e fundamental solutions are being explored.
Why is Mr. Bobby Jindal and likes of him not taking up our cause actively? People use their "humble-background" in campaign times. Why do they fail in holding out a helping hand to people that are stuck in such "humble-background"? Do you see such apathy in other minority communities?
Thanks.
That's a much better suggestion than playing carrot-and-stick on real-estate bargains Mr. Hiralal.
Now, what would really be effective is for our own people that are already naturalized and integrated and assimilated and digested in the US system to stand up for our cause.
Please, do this for us seniors. As citizens and permanent residents, your voice will be effectively heard. Case in point - legislation on re-uniting families. To begin with, family based has nearly 60% more visas than employment based and nearly 80% of the visas available are exempt from per-country limits. And yet, the politicians want to reform family based immigration process because the people at the receiving end are their citizens. There is nothing wrong with it because the wait-time for extended family members are really long too which is a shame. But you see, there are bills that are actively discussed and passed in that category i.e fundamental solutions are being explored.
Why is Mr. Bobby Jindal and likes of him not taking up our cause actively? People use their "humble-background" in campaign times. Why do they fail in holding out a helping hand to people that are stuck in such "humble-background"? Do you see such apathy in other minority communities?
Thanks.
Life2Live
01-15 02:56 PM
This rule will be disaster for my life, it is leaving me no option other than to go home if H1B not get extended. I have been here in US for last 7 years and own a house, I do have Kids US citizens. I am getting my H1b extenstion year by year since my labour is approved and I-140 is pending.
It looks like I should stop making mortgage payments immediately and be prepare to go back this year.
It looks like I should stop making mortgage payments immediately and be prepare to go back this year.
Jerrome
09-24 10:24 AM
When can I get my gc based on these uscis data for sept 2005 eb-2.Please suggest me.
100% by this time next year.
100% by this time next year.
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